Friday, April 30, 2010
Case Study: How IBM Uncovers “Millions of Dollars” Worth of Sales Leads with Social Media

How successful can a B2B business be using social media? Fairly successful, at least in the case of IBM. We recently chatted with Ed Linde II, whose team is responsible for building Web assets to support the IBM.com sales channel and organic Web visitors, about IBM’s social media efforts and successes. He spoke about their Listening for Leads program, which he says has “uncovered millions of dollars worth of sales leads” so far, and is expected grow even more. Here’s a clip from the full interview available on eMarketer Total Access.
eMarketer: How does social media marketing differ for B2B companies from B2C?
Ed Linde II: In B2C you’re looking for a lot of interaction and collaboration between the individuals who tend to be a youthful audience and from time to time there’s a celebrity element. In the B2B space, you want subject-matter experts who are known authorities on particular topics. They’re credible experts on a particular area that people are trying to learn more about and make educated decisions on.
eMarketer: How are you deploying social media marketing?
Mr. Linde II: Within IBM we have a number of people in the brand areas who are blogging and doing things in the social media space relative to topics like cloud computing.
In B2B we have a number of Websites that we built for our sales reps where we’ve enabled the reps to have a blog with RSS feeds that are connected to LinkedIn and Twitter. Their customers can follow them where they have an individual relationship.
Some of our reps have Facebook pages also. We also have a program called Listening for Leads, where we have people we call “seekers” who on a voluntary basis go to particular social media sites where they listen to conversations and determine whether there’s a potential sales opportunity.
eMarketer: What kinds of sites do the “seekers” go to?
Mr. Linde II: The “seekers” go on a voluntary basis to sites in the public sector. For example, government agency sites where RFPs [request for proposals] are posted, and there are discussions about proposals. In the tech space, there might be blogs or discussion boards about the new Intel chip for servers. We’ll monitor those conversations.
Seekers listen to and look at conversations. For example, if someone says, “I’m looking to replace my old server” or “Does anyone have any recommendations on what kind of storage device will work in this in type of situation?” or “I’m about to issue a RFP; does anyone have a sample RFP I could work from?” Those are all pretty good clues that someone’s about to buy something or start the buying process.
We try to identify those leads, get them to a lead development rep who is a telephone sales rep who has been trained to have a conversation with the lead to qualify and validate the opportunity. They’ll qualify and validate it and then pass it to the appropriate sales resource to follow up.
eMarketer: How is IBM using Twitter?
Mr. Linde II: We promote our customer events on Twitter. When I say customer events, they could be Webinars, podcasts, virtual trade shows or physical trade shows. We advertise some of our promotions via Twitter. And our individual reps use Twitter to keep their customers updated about interesting news, events and things of that nature. Each rep has their own Twitter account. We also have the handle @IBMpcs because we sell refurbished PCs .
eMarketer: What successes have you had with social media?
Mr. Linde II: I would say Listening for Leads has been our best initiative so far. We have uncovered millions of dollars worth of sales leads through our intelligent listening program and we’ve closed a lot of business and we expect to do more. That’s going to be a big growth area.
The thing you have to be careful with in social media is you can’t take your expert, for example, the guru of cloud computing, and expect him or her to also try to be a salesperson. Most people go to these sites and want the expert to be like a professor and to be as unbiased and antiseptic as possible. They don’t want to be sold to on those sites.
Smart marketers use the expert to establish credibility, to get the conversation going and so forth. And then maybe you can have the expert point people back to the Website where you can do the promotional stuff and the selling activity. By the same token, you listen for activity and if it looks like there are opportunities, you pursue them.
eMarketer: Can you offer an example?
Mr. Linde II: Let’s say there’s a big industry for used tires. You would go out to the places where people talk about used tires and listen for conversations where someone’s looking to buy used tires. You would contact that person, interact with them and suggest that you might be able to help. You sort of qualify them and then hand them off to the lead development rep.
eMarketer: Is there some secret sauce that makes this type of program successful, or is it more that you’ve been able to identify the key places where people are talking about the IBM products and services?
Mr. Linde II: The key thing to making this successful is knowing what the right keywords are so that you can sort of search the various blogs and other venues where people are talking about your products. You need to use tools with Google that filter the conversations that are happening within blogs or on Twitter.
Typically, on the seeking side, we get people from the business unit to spend a couple of hours a week doing it. So if you have enough people doing that you can uncover enough opportunities for the lead development reps to follow up on. I can’t divulge the number of people doing the seeking; it’s a decent number, but it’s not their full-time job.
eMarketer: How are you tracking and measuring your social initiatives? You mentioned that you’ve identified millions of sales leads.
Mr. Linde II: We measure against number of sales leads identified. And we rate the lead value from those leads. Then the win revenue and win rate. So there are four key metrics—number of leads created, lead value, win revenue and win rate.
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I’m glad to see this getting covered.
I run into far too many organizations — 40-50% according to one of our recent surveys — who are repeating the same mistakes with regards to social media as they did with first e-mail and then with internet access. They view it as frivolous and a time waster and simply shut off access.
IBM is a great counter-example because, a) they are so big; and b) because they get it. I am impressed that IBM can distill its social computing policy down to 12 points — did a blog post on this 2 days ago just by coincidence — Big Blue and the Social Revolution — http://www.aiimcommunities.org/e20/blog/big-blue-and-social-revolution
I am also glad that you are covering this type of enterprise adoption of social media as a sales-marketing channel.
What I found most curious was limited way IBM is using Twitter. They use Twitter as a broadcasting channel primarily. Yet Twitter is the best lead generation and sales tool of all the social channels.
Case in point: DellOutlet on Twitter. Dell sells refurbished equipment and tracks their sales via keycodes. Dell can produce actual sales numbers rather than generic references to “Millions of Dollars” in sales.
What corporations must execute is a metric system that measures all of the traditional direct marketing channels and the new social media channels. Once measured, each channel can be prioritized and a company’s resources can be allocated accordingly.
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This post was really helpful in understanding how to more effectively use the social graph to distill what customers might be looking for and when.
Glad you got something out of it, John.
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@dean guadagni Actually, this is a direct result from using Twitter to mine leads. Remember IBM products and services are not a commodity like Dell and Sony…we sold off our laptops years ago!
Thanks, Jeanette!